Just to clear one thing up... I am not saying these are the official finalists. They are just the only three schools to really make sense as favorites for expansion.
James Madison:
- School Founded: 1908
- Football Founded: 1972
- Location: Harrisonburg, Virginia
- Current Conference: Colonial Athletic Association
- Sports: (17) Football, Baseball, M-Basketball, W-Basketball, W-Cross Country, Field Hockey, W-Lacrosse, W-Soccer, W-Swimming and Diving, W-Tennis, W-Volleyball, W-Golf, M-Soccer, Softball, M-Tennis, W-Track and Field.
- Football All-time Record: 256-194-4 4 conference titles.
- Claimed National Championships: One (2004 FCS National Champions)
- Football Stadium: Bridgeforth Stadium and Zane Showker Field 25,000 Seats.
- TV Market(s): Richmond (58th TV market)**
- Rivalries: (Richmond, William & Mary, Delaware)
- Student Population: 19,927 (18,107 Undergraduate)
- Endowment: $59.6 Million
- Athletic Budget: $31.1 million
The James Madison Dukes
are an interesting case of a school that wants to move up to the FBS level but
may be too picky for its own good. The Dukes have a $31.1 million dollar
athletic budget that would vault them into having the highest athletic budget
of any team in the Sun Belt. James Madison supports 17 sports with three of
those sports (Field Hockey, W-Lacrosse, and M-Soccer) not supported by the Sun
Belt. The sports not supported by the Sun Belt would pose some problems but
should not be a huge deal as conferences in those sports tend to be much
different than in the main sports. The Dukes have a more recent football
history with the school only having a football program since 1972 (41 years
this fall).
Compared to the current
FCS teams, James Madison has what could easily be determined to be the best
facilities by far in the subdivision. The Dukes have a 25,000 season football
stadium that could be upgraded to 40,000-50,000 seats with some creative work.
The basketball arena holds just over 7,100 people and a baseball stadium that
holds 1,500 fans. The Dukes also have incredible on-campus fields for soccer,
field hockey, and lacrosse. http://www.jmusports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=14400&ATCLID=205667931
James Madison ranked as the #6 regional university in
the South by the yearly US News best colleges ranking system. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
Geography tends to be a
huge issue for the Dukes as they would be by far the most northeast team in the
Sun Belt. The Sun Belt recently added Appalachian State in Boone, North
Carolina which could be a bit of a connector but the traveling for sports other
than football could end up to be quite costly especially with trips to Texas to
face Texas State and UT-Arlington.
Why James Madison would be a good fit: James Madison has a FBS ready football stadium
that would need little to no renovation to move to the Sun Belt and would give
the Sun Belt a better foothold on the east coast. The Sun Belt recently added
it's two most eastern schools with Appalachian State and Georgia Southern.
Continuing to add on the east coast seems to be a big priority of the Sun Belt.
JMU is far and away the #1 choice for the Sun Belt after adding it's most
recent schools. The SBC believes that James Madison fits the schools size,
sports commitment, and overall up-and-coming conference beliefs of the Sun
Belt.
Why James Madison would not be a good fit: James Madison is very worried about the
geography issues facing the school if they do join. Trips to Texas for all
sports as well as trips to New Mexico and Idaho for football seems to be giving
the Dukes cold feet. The other issue for James Madison is the belief that they
would be a better fit with the MAC. The MAC is currently at 13 teams and
realistically could add another team in the near future to even out divisions
but the MAC has made no public overtures toward expansion. James Madison seems
to want to wait until September or later to even make a decision on any
conference jumps.
Overall Assessment: Of the remaining contenders for the 12th football and 14th overall
Sun Belt team for 2014, James Madison has the best resume by far. The Dukes
have money, facilities, a location coveted by the Sun Belt, and the academic
prestige that would help the Sun Belt. The issue tends to be whether James
Madison want to drag their feet about making a decision. If the Dukes are
steadfast about not discussing possible conference invites till the fall, they
will miss out and end up stuck in a CAA conference that is constantly being
raided and weakened year after year. I would guess the Sun Belt is putting the
full court press on the Dukes trying to get acceptance but until the Dukes say
anything, it is hard to tell.
Liberty:
- School Founded: 1971
- Football Founded: 1973
- Location: Lynchburg, Virginia
- Current Conference: Big South
- Sports: (18) Baseball, M-Basketball, W-Basketball, Football, M-Cross Country, W-Cross Country, M-Golf, M-Soccer, M-Tennis, M-Indoor and Outdoor Track and Field, Field Hockey, W-Lacrosse, W-Soccer, Softball, W-Swimming, W-Tennis, W-Indoor and Outdoor Track and Field, Volleyball
- All-time Record: 198-198-4 4 conference titles.
- Claimed National Championships: None
- Football Stadium: 19,200 seat Williams Stadium.
- TV Market(s): Roanoke-Lynchburg (67th TV market)**
- Rivalries: (Coastal Carolina)
- Student Population: 19,214 (13,400 Undergraduate)
- Endowment: $54.1 Million
- Athletic Budget: $20 million
Liberty is an interesting case because they Flames are very forthcoming
about their interest in the Sun Belt and want everyone to know how badly they
want to move up to the FBS. The Flames have only been around as a university
since 1971 with football founded only 2 years later. The Flames are on the east
coast giving them that coveted area of the east coast that the Sun Belt seems
to want so badly. The Flames have a $20 million athletic budget which would put
them right at the top of the Sun Belt. The Flames have a more limited football
history with this fall being their 39th year of the program.
Similar to James Madison, the Liberty Flames have some of the best
facilities in all of the FCS. The Flames have a 19,200 seat football stadium
that has room for expansion and would probably need to be upgraded to 30,000 or
so seats if invited to the Sun Belt. The Flames have a basketball arena that
holds just over 8,000 fans, a baseball stadium holding 2,500 as well as a
volleyball facility, multiple field hockey and lacrosse fields, indoor and
outdoor track complexes and a 12-court tennis facility. http://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?PID=16998
Liberty has a good academic reputation ranked as the 65th best Southern
University according to the US News best colleges rankings. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/liberty-university-10392
The Flames have a similar geography issue as James Madison but do not
seem to be as worried about it. The Flames want to be the most northeast team
of the Sun Belt and are willing to travel to Texas, New Mexico, and even Idaho
for football. The cost may be expensive but the Flames seem to be willing to
foot the bill to join the Sun Belt.
Why Liberty would be a
good fit: Simply, Liberty has made no secret their desire to be in the Sun Belt.
Commissioner Karl Benson has stated on multiple occasions that he wants a group
of schools that want to be in the Sun Belt rather than a group constantly
looking for a better option. Liberty fits the bill on that prerequisite with
the administration making it quite clear that they are doing everything in
their power to convince the Sun Belt to take them in.
Why Liberty would be a
bad fit: The Falwell problem. The university was started by Jerry Falwell in 1971
and requires students to adhere to a strict moral code somewhat similar to the
code at BYU. Many people outright dislike the university for those reasons but
others worry about Liberty's intentions with going out to the media to make
sure everyone knew they were working for the Sun Belt. The need for attention
from the university is a worrisome issue for the Sun Belt who want a group of
schools working for a common goal rather than singular glory.
Overall Assessment: Liberty can only sit
back and use the wait-and-see approach regarding the potential move to the Sun
Belt. The Flames are believed by nearly everyone to be the number 2 choice for
the Sun Belt behind James Madison and any decision will be made after James
Madison makes its decision. If JMU in fact turns down the offer from the Sun
Belt and Liberty gets the call, the Flames will immediately accept the offer
and a press conference would be imminent. All the Flames can do is wait to see
what happens.
Lamar Cardinals:
- School Founded: 1923
- Football Founded: 1924
- Location: Beaumont, Texas
- Current Conference: Southland
- Sports: (14) Baseball, M-basketball, M-Cross Country, Football, M-Golf, M-Tenis, M-Track and Field, W-Basketball, W-Cross Country, W-Golf, W-Soccer, Softball, W-Tennis, W-Track and Field, Volleyball
- All-time Record: 180-238-9 (13-21 since the program was reinstated for the 2010 season). 4 conference championships.
- Claimed National Championships: None
- Football Stadium: Provost Umphrey Stadium 16,000 capacity
- TV Market: Houston (10th TV market)**
- Rivalries: (McNeese State Cowboys, Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns)
- Student Population: 13,773 (Undergraduate 10,500)
- Endowment: $287 Million
- Athletic Budget: $10.8 Million
The Lamar Cardinals have
been surprisingly quiet on the realignment front recently and seem to be either
out of the running or doing everything in secrecy in the opposite manner of
Liberty. Lamar has the oldest program of the candidates overall dating back to
1924 but also have the youngest program as the football program was disbanded
from 1990-2009. The Cardinals restarted the program in 2010 as an independent
before rejoining the Southland football conference in 2011. The Cardinals have
a history with the Sun Belt as they were members in every sport except for
football from 1991-1998. Lamar then made what was a controversial decision and
left the Sun Belt for the Southland Conference. It is hard to determine whether
the time in the Sun Belt will help Lamar in its candidacy.
The facilities for Lamar
have been recently improved significantly and are in the range of both James
Madison and Liberty but slightly lagging behind. The Cardinals built a state of
the art athletic complex in 2010 which has very much improved the overall view
of the athletic department. The Cardinals play in a 16,000 seat football
stadium that is one of the nicest in all of the FCS but will have to be
expanded upon for the FBS level. Lamar also has a basketball arena holding over
10,000 and a baseball stadium holding 3,500 fans. The Cardinals have a
volleyball only facility, a soccer field, a tennis facility and an outdoor
track and field complex. http://www.lamarcardinals.com/facilities/lama-facilities.html
Lamar is not ranked academically in the same category as the James Madison or
Liberty programs. Lamar is ranked as a National University rather than on the regional scale so it is difficult to compare the academic rankings. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/lamar-university-3581
Lamar does not fit the
geographic role that Liberty and James Madison fit but could be a better
geographical fit than either of those programs. The Cardinals are located in
Beaumont, Texas, making them a bit of a connector to the east and west of the
Sun Belt. If added, the Cardinals would be between the University of Louisiana Ragin'
Cajuns and the Texas State Bobcats. In a purely geographical sense, the
addition of Lamar makes the most sense.
Why Lamar would be a good fit: Lamar has a history with the Sun Belt being a member from 1991-1998
and having a historical rivalry with their good friends from Lafayette,
Louisiana playing them 34 times with a 11-23 overall record. The Cardinals have
played 6 games since football was reintroduced in 2010 versus current Sun Belt
members (South Alabama, Texas State, Louisiana). The historical angle and level
of familiarity with the Sun Belt should work in the Cardinals favor.
Why Lamar would not be a good fit: The geography. Many would believe that the
location of Lamar would be a huge positive for potential entrance to the Sun
Belt but it seems to be the exact opposite. The Sun Belt seems to want to get
more members from the east coast with the two most recent full members becoming
the most eastern teams of the conference. The other worrisome aspect is that no
one is talking about Lamar as a possibility for the recently vacated WKU spot
for the 2014 season. The public sentiment is that if they are not being
mentioned in the media about inclusion, they have been passed over.
Overall Assessment: This is by far the toughest team to judge about their inclusion in
the Sun Belt. The Sun Belt historians would love to see the team with Sun Belt
ties get the 12th football and 14th overall Sun Belt spot. Location seems to be
the sticking point that may hold the Cardinals in the FCS and that would be a
shame. The Sun Belt is playing things close to the vest and may still be
targeting Lamar but that isn't of significant importance until the Sun Belt
hears an official decision from front runner James Madison.
**TV Markets are the closest top 100 V market to the
school**
Whether you agree, disagree, think I have no idea what I am talking about or anything else, I would love for you to comment and hear your ideas, suggestions and criticism. You can type in a name to comment as without registering so I hope to hear from you. Please type in a name and not use anonymous. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteGreat analysis...thank you! As a JMU grad i can tell you that we lean north for students and academics really matter in the 'burg. In a perfect world we would get into the MAC along with Delaware (assuming UMass exits).
ReplyDeleteIf not we need to move up on football only so that we can be ready for future moves in east coast conferences.
The academic analysis is not at all accurate. Regional Universities, of which Liberty and JMU are rated in, is a lower caliber of school that most often emphasize education as a major, while a National University has to have signicant components of science, medicine, engineering, and research, and is typically a PhD granting University. Lamar has a more significant presence in science, engineering, and research, so it is included within the National Universities categories which by U&S News ranking standards ranks them above JMU and Liberty. All three provide positive education, but only Lamar is ranked in the "big leagues."
ReplyDeleteThis is so far off, that I don't know where to start. National vs. Regional deals with ONE thing....the dumber of doctorate programs offered. Lamar is a sub-200 national university. Regional schools like Villanova, JMU, Creighton, Butler, Gonzaga, etc would all be top 100 universities.
DeleteThanks for the info. I will look again into the academic side of things and make changes as I see fit.
ReplyDeleteYou left out Jacksonville State University. Very good fit and right inside the current footprint. Birmingham media market #40. PS Lamar is in the Beaumont market not Houston.
ReplyDeleteCSN Houston covers Lamar. Although not part of Houston can be considered part of Houston media market. Less than an hour from Houston.
DeleteJMU is actually coser to the Charlottesville market, even the Lynchburg market than the Richmond market. You might as well say that JMU is in the DC market, since it takes less time to drive to DC from Harrisonburg than it does to get to Richmond.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, interesting and pretty balanced. Interesting about Lamar's educational reputation; seems that it might exceed that of other SBC schools.
Appreciate the comparison of the schools and the analysis. Couple unique things to consider for Liberty (amongst the three):
ReplyDeletea. Liberty's 80,000 online students are creating an increasingly national following (reflected in its national student draw & recruiting reach)
b. It's TV network brings exposure (Liberty has more televised games than either JMU or Lamar)
c. Liberty's young Law School has achieved significant success & the launch of its new Medical School will continue to strengthen its academic reputation
d. The growth of Liberty should not be overlooked; locally they will add 5,000 additional undergraduates in the next 5 years. The online programs added 60,000+ students in the past 5 years and continue to grow. The Endowment reflects this, moving from 0 to 50M+ during this time. Net assets now exceed $1 Billion. Liberty's AA bond rating from Standard & Poor’s, places it among the nation’s top 44 S&P-rated colleges and universities for financial strength.
e. Liberty has announced plans for the Football stadium upgrade (30,000+) and is prepared to begin upon acceptance to an FBS Conference.
I have really enjoyed finding out more information about these schools with the comments on here. If there are any other teams or angles of realignment you want me to focus on for future posts, let me know and I will handle it.
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ReplyDeleteLamar's athletic budget is in the 15 to 20 million range according to public records. Projections are for it going up in the next year.
ReplyDeleteInteresting about Lamar's educational reputation; seems that it might exceed that of other SBC schools.
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